Mystery Scotch Tasting with Gentlemen of the World

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Gentlemen of the World Episode 48

Ever wonder how a glass of Scotch can transport you to a camping trip under a starlit desert night? Join us, the Gentlemen of the World, as we navigate through a thrilling mystery Scotch tasting. Our first stop is a deep dive into the visual appeal of our drink. We draw parallels between its coloration and various beverages such as an Irish whiskey, a Chardonnay, or a Pinot Grigio. Behold, as we appreciate the 'legs' of the Scotch and their potential impact on mouthfeel, while also detecting various scent notes from smoke to moss to "a gushers ball".

Our journey doesn't end there. We set off to revel in the Scotch's flavor profiles, comparing it to a wide spectrum of things, even the notorious Malort.

In the final leg of our adventure, we lay bare our honest ratings of this intricate Scotch. After contemplating its complexity and individual components, we declare it an ideal drink for a camping trip or a desert night escapade. So, come along and raise a glass with us, as we toast to the health of the Scotch and its enchanted drinkers. Here's to an episode brimming with spirit and cheer!

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Speaker 1:

This is Mystery Scotch tasting with Gentlemen of the World. We are a club that gets together and we try Scotch blind With us tonight. I am Justin, I am Dave, alex, evan.

Speaker 3:

Nathan.

Speaker 1:

Andrew Dave Vern. And as we do every month, we start by picking up our glasses and analyzing the color of the Scotch we're drinking. So what do we see, guys, by looking at our glasses? Scotch Vrenchy, scotch. Good start, this is light.

Speaker 4:

Yes, very, very light. Yeah, watered down green tea, yeah, light golden, yeah, mm-hmm.

Speaker 6:

But if I was going just by color, this looks to me more like an Irish whiskey. Yeah, oh, that would be my first guess if I was just being shown this and didn't know a Scotch.

Speaker 1:

We call, you're saying it's Irish whiskey, it's not Scotch.

Speaker 4:

But it's like, or it's Macalmy, it's like what? Pinot Grigio? Yeah, mm, it's not even Chardonnay, it's not even that golden. I don't know I might go Chardonnay.

Speaker 7:

Well, here's the Chardonnay it's pretty firm, so the legs are sticky, though yeah, is there anyone in the club that's genuinely a wine person?

Speaker 6:

I like wine a lot, I love wine. Do you guys both know wine pretty well? I was just curious.

Speaker 3:

I drink wine pretty well, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

That's funny.

Speaker 3:

I think I actually may be going to a Riesling tasting tomorrow night.

Speaker 6:

Whoa, I don't even feel like I know you anymore. You said it. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1:

Well, so what else do we see?

Speaker 3:

Or is that all we see?

Speaker 4:

We just see Pinot.

Speaker 1:

Grigio, and that is what we're drinking, and.

Speaker 4:

I'm seeing some legs in the glass.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm seeing sticky legs Sticky legs, sticky legs, sticky legs.

Speaker 2:

I pulled up the tasting notes and everything with it, but I did not read them. So, whatever I do say wholeheartedly, is this claimer Good for you, alex. Good for you Alex.

Speaker 7:

Thank you. Good job, nice, I don't love you, but thank you Whatever.

Speaker 1:

Andrew is really taking his legs for a walk.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like really cloudy. You got cloudy. Yeah, it's like gray and cloudy.

Speaker 7:

Dirty, dirty glass.

Speaker 1:

Who washed these glasses?

Speaker 7:

I mean. The legs, though, are notable.

Speaker 4:

I'm kind of expecting this to be maybe a little on the oily kind of waxy mouth feel.

Speaker 6:

It looks like a Christmas tree ornament there we go Christmas tree Legs are running.

Speaker 4:

Can I smell it? Yeah, let's smell this puppy. We're going to smell it. Smells nice. Oh, I like it.

Speaker 7:

Can we rate it, can we?

Speaker 1:

rate it, it makes on the smell alone. It does smell really good it smells yeah, and familiar.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it does smell familiar.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, like the sticky kind of smoky peaty, but not overly.

Speaker 1:

Snicky, snicky bogey beady, snicky poody peaty.

Speaker 4:

Okay, so there's a note we've thrown out a few times, but do it Andrew. Maybe it's me so that's why it feels familiar. But this, to me, is very early morning on the beach. Campfires have been extinguished, but you're still getting the smell of them. Yeah, that's sweet seaweeds. Yeah, yeah, sweet seaweeds, a little bit of like salty breeze.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, does it smell boozy to you guys Slightly?

Speaker 4:

It's kind of a bit of a little prickle, yeah, hmm.

Speaker 2:

It's like a vanilla candy. Like a creamy vanilla candy yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's kind of a word prickle, and that sparked prickly pear in my head and now, I don't know why but?

Speaker 4:

I am smelling pear.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, good inception job.

Speaker 4:

I guess I'm going to say what is that? What is that Orchard?

Speaker 1:

fruit.

Speaker 8:

Hmm.

Speaker 7:

General orchard fruit. Yeah, actually, general orchard fruits, all of them.

Speaker 6:

They're a small basket full of orchard fruits. Yeah, they're at their prime. Harry and David gift basket.

Speaker 4:

Or the things that are in the basket, just the basket.

Speaker 7:

Banana Laffy, taffy, that's good.

Speaker 5:

I was kind of like an artificial but actual, real banana.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 7:

I get like a peel, but I get, I get the laughing taffy banana.

Speaker 4:

It's been a while since I've had a laughing taffy Does that.

Speaker 1:

I haven't even been able to feel

Speaker 7:

like I'm on a banana roast. No, I think that's makes it better. That's a bonus.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it's a little fun fact, so that artificial banana flavor is actually based on the real flavor of banana, not the current flavor, fresh, the original, like it's actual, what bananas should taste like.

Speaker 2:

So you're smelling real banana yeah exactly so bananas are not bananas.

Speaker 5:

Bananas are not bananas. No, bananas are still bananas, but it's not the varietal that used to be prominent in the United States.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, it's the way God intended bananas.

Speaker 7:

Is anybody?

Speaker 1:

getting your mind.

Speaker 7:

Really ripe. Is it a honeydew melon? Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 6:

It's like a super ripe More, more, more.

Speaker 7:

Like you're about to go bad almost, but if you don't eat it this second?

Speaker 5:

it's bad.

Speaker 7:

You have one second to eat this, there it goes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5:

But then I take in I get like a lot of like ocean spray seaweed. So there's really some peat in here.

Speaker 1:

There's a moss type smell to it and then rock candy I definitely like rock candy River rock candy For garage.

Speaker 6:

you're not allowed to say I definitely echo the banana note, but like it's like, like I think if like banana cream pie with, like them with some sauce, or because it it's got like this kind of caramelized yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's that lime mineral note there too. Yeah, way in the background.

Speaker 7:

Never had a scotch. When you guys are talking, we're all talking and every time I smell it and somebody says something, I smell that Like it is so dynamic and maybe it's a magic scotch, I feel pheasant with flavor.

Speaker 5:

On the nose. We haven't even tasted it. No, no, are we allowed to? No, we can't.

Speaker 7:

We're not allowed to taste it. That's episode two next month.

Speaker 8:

This, whatever it is, reminds me a lot of this.

Speaker 3:

Oh, the fin login Really.

Speaker 8:

Yeah, I'm getting a lot of the fin login notes, the just standard eye-lay kind of thing.

Speaker 1:

Maybe Alex is pulling like a mega trickery move, and so it is.

Speaker 8:

I don't think anybody's tasted that. I'm just swirling it, and every time I go back in.

Speaker 4:

I'm getting like menthol, eucalyptus, like that very cool heat Crap.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, I'll give it to you.

Speaker 4:

I definitely see the menthol you can kind of see, rub on here It'll smell like chestnut grape over up.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, it's almost that it does smell oily, it smells like it's going to stick. It does as.

Speaker 1:

Vix does yeah, yeah, that's. I think mostly what it does, is this mostly Vix?

Speaker 7:

Hedged in.

Speaker 4:

Vix barrels Each ring is going to look more like a small bit I get on the nose.

Speaker 5:

Have you guys tried any yet?

Speaker 4:

No, have you.

Speaker 6:

Did you try it, I did. I did Whoa All right, oh, we're trying things.

Speaker 8:

Here we go, we're allowed to.

Speaker 4:

I'm enjoying the smell of it so much.

Speaker 2:

Wow, there's that mineral 100%.

Speaker 5:

Wow, it's a lot more aggressive, the minerals that was there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah there's some heat. That's got a lot more punch to it than I thought. Oh my gosh, my first note was chili powder Like immediately on the tongue it was chili powder.

Speaker 6:

Does it taste? Feel like it has like a slight delay for you guys? Yeah, it felt like I tasted it and it was very mild and then, like it, like my palate got like body slammed I had one second after yeah.

Speaker 8:

I had an initial flavor and then immediately like disappeared and it became something else.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 8:

Like the initial flavor I got.

Speaker 3:

Actually was like a go back to what Evan was talking about earlier, before we started recording, was the milk punch.

Speaker 8:

Oh yeah, like the body. Yeah, it's something like thick and sweet, but then that sweetness like disappears instantly.

Speaker 1:

This scotch is a Bond girl you like. James Bond meets her, you know, at the bar and he's like oh, hey, cool. And she's like, oh, nice to meet you, and like cut cuddles and clothes, and then just body slams. And then, like ready to go, and then somehow they make love.

Speaker 5:

And then it's like, yeah, so for me it's like you know, classic Pete, you know medicinal smoky flavor, and then it finishes like kind of surprisingly bitter, especially for, like, the nose being so sweet, so kind of like candy, sweet, and then just finishes bitter. It's really interesting.

Speaker 7:

I don't think I've ever had a scotch at finishes like this. Yeah, and then it finishes like not IPA flavors, but the same feeling of when you have a really bitter IPA. You know that's really.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, there's like some great. I repeat, all the aftertaste, exactly.

Speaker 2:

So I was going to say people who like, don't like cilantro. It's that taste which maybe leans towards a grapefruit, it's like that bitterness, so be.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, so be.

Speaker 2:

Did you put?

Speaker 5:

malort in this no.

Speaker 2:

I think that goes back just to the mineral stuff. Probably yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. So it's like a different mineral, different sort of on a different vibe. I get a lot of like spice and pepper, but it doesn't so heat. I get a lot of heat. I still am getting chili powder second on my second sip, but it's not to me. It's not like an alcohol Like. This is 60%, it's more of a spice heat.

Speaker 1:

If that makes sense. I mean you brought up the chili peppers early.

Speaker 4:

You know, that was the first thing and I'm still getting it.

Speaker 6:

The stomach is telling me that it's 50%, but my mouth is like you're fine, but then the catclaw is kind of a fire.

Speaker 4:

It's totally comfortable Like on the palette though.

Speaker 7:

It's really surprising.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's savory. I'm very savory.

Speaker 7:

I'm getting like salted meats and stuff at the end.

Speaker 1:

Say more about that, vern.

Speaker 5:

The meats are salted, well salted, it's going to sound kind of weird, but it's like it's almost like a gusher. Like, the flavor explodes in your mouth.

Speaker 7:

Like a gentlemen's gusher. Yes.

Speaker 2:

So I spent a significant amount of time looking at these bottles yes, I did not look into the bottles by any means. It was strictly on what the bottle looked like. I don't know. Leave it at that.

Speaker 7:

Oh we went faster than before.

Speaker 5:

It doesn't look like a giant bag of gushers.

Speaker 2:

Whoever has the coolest label wins.

Speaker 1:

Did you just buy a ton of gushers and squeeze all the juices out to make a scotch bottle?

Speaker 5:

No, that's not what I'm talking about. It's the experience, the idea of gushers, come on.

Speaker 1:

I think I know you're not talking about that, but I think I am.

Speaker 2:

Open the gusher packs and pick one big gusher ball.

Speaker 7:

No, you make me think of something.

Speaker 6:

So you compounded all of them into one pack. Three or four packs, three or four packs. You were allowed to have more than one pack. Yeah yeah bro, yeah Rich, over here I had to have a birthday to get a pack of gushers.

Speaker 2:

Come on, man. Yeah, I got your ball. You're never too late to try it. You can do it now. You're an adult. Okay, thank you.

Speaker 8:

So do you just like compact it into a ball and then?

Speaker 2:

eat it like an apple. Probably don't let your skin if you're going to see you doing it.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, it's very shameful. I'm sure Sounds fun.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, sounds like something I'll do in my car behind the 7-Eleven bottle of malort.

Speaker 1:

They're just gushers.

Speaker 5:

They're just gushers.

Speaker 1:

But are you putting them together in?

Speaker 6:

a ball. I was thinking about it.

Speaker 5:

Anymore Another gush of all guys. So third arrest this week.

Speaker 3:

I keep coming back to that grapefruit, though it reminds me of like a candied grapefruit ride. I don't know if you've ever had that, that kind of gummy rind, those candied grapefruit rinds where you get that sweet, but there's just that bitterness at the end. It almost like you taste, like you tested a 9 volt. You're just kind of getting that at the end.

Speaker 4:

So I'm getting like on the palate kind of the briny oyster liquor, the oyster the briny stuff, and then I don't know if this is along the lines of the bitterness that you guys are talking about, but the finish for me is almost like ash.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, I was going to say ash. I think you're right.

Speaker 4:

And I think we're both right With ash Oysters to ash.

Speaker 6:

For me it tastes like a Dominican, like Maduro cigar. Not the taste of the smoke, but the actual taste when you're holding the cigar in your mouth.

Speaker 3:

It's very referential Because that has its own taste right.

Speaker 6:

So that kind of informs the palate of what the smoke's going to taste like, but specifically like a Dominican cigar.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, my mouth is so dry.

Speaker 7:

And it's very dry. I mean, I know about your mouth, but my mouth is dry yeah, should we touch mouths no.

Speaker 6:

I think we might need to touch mouths.

Speaker 7:

Touching mouths.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I'm dehydrated. So that's Vern's mouth.

Speaker 4:

But I think you're right. This is one of the driest, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I am thirsty for water, jesus.

Speaker 3:

It could be brought up wine earlier, but it's odd to think of the like a tannin or like that tannic feel that you get from that really dry red that kind of dries your mouth out Like a black tea, something that really dries your mouth out. It's kind of unusual to have a scotch that one hits your palate and kind of explodes with sweetness and flavor to associate with kind of moisture in the mouth Moist.

Speaker 6:

Moist, moist, moist mouth.

Speaker 3:

But to have this kind of dryer mouth out is. It's an interesting. That kind of like after effect on the palate is unusual.

Speaker 7:

More than num or more than dry. I'm getting like numbing. Yeah, it's like, it's like a mouth, it's like a mouth.

Speaker 6:

But it doesn't taste like a, it's like a mint fall note yeah.

Speaker 5:

So the interesting thing is, I added like a cap full of water.

Speaker 1:

He did it. You added water without telling anybody, wow.

Speaker 5:

You sneaky, wow you guys are like sneaky, you know what I'm saying, yeah, sneaking in a little cap full of water here and there, and it really actually accentuates the bitterness. So if that's like the kind of flavor note that you enjoy, like I got a lot more of the grapefruit peel, a lot more of that like kind of like not puckering, but like kind of like bitterness.

Speaker 8:

I'm intrigued yeah.

Speaker 5:

It's worth a try. I personally don't like it, but that's that's a personal preference.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you put more lard in it. You did put more lard in it, really Sorry, that's what I meant.

Speaker 5:

A cap full of lard is what I.

Speaker 6:

Sweetness isn't like a note that I'm necessarily ever looking for. Yeah, but while this is sweet, it's like really delight, like it's really nicely balanced and there's like a lot of other flavors, because usually anytime- I have any scotch or like any type of like drink that's got some sweetness to it. It's overly sweet. This one feels kind of in the pocket, no, where it's not overpowering yeah.

Speaker 7:

Did you guys ever do a honey baked hams? Yeah, Sugar glazed ham yeah, that's like fire roasted, yeah, and I feel like I get some of that here too.

Speaker 4:

Totally, that's that's not far off, because the ham is smoked and you get that kind of there's that smoked meat, yeah To it, but it's got that sweet glaze on it.

Speaker 2:

You figured it out. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is. It's what it is, yeah.

Speaker 4:

It's what it is, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's what it is. It's what it is.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's what it is.

Speaker 3:

I get it just right on the tip of my tongue, right when I get it Tippy sweetness, just the tippy sweetness.

Speaker 7:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Just the tip of sweetness.

Speaker 7:

The tip of sweetness is a great novel.

Speaker 8:

Yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 1:

Many award winning.

Speaker 8:

So I added some water to it, like as well. And you're right, it is like bringing out more of the bitterness, like more of the like. Honestly, it's weird. It kind of brings a malort pencil shade it looks like is it super appealing for me. I was hoping for it to open up more and might be find more of the sweetness.

Speaker 5:

To like you, it's more of the bitter notes. So the interesting thing is, now that it's been sitting for a while or maybe it's just my palate might be ruined it's getting a little more sweet, a little more smoky. So I don't know, I'm kind of. I'm actually digging it more now.

Speaker 4:

I haven't added water, but I do get some of the pencil shavings. Yeah, it's there.

Speaker 5:

It's not pencil shavings, it's juniper.

Speaker 7:

Nature's pencil shavings Juniper beers.

Speaker 6:

Nature's gushers.

Speaker 7:

It's true. It is true.

Speaker 1:

David, will you pass me the water? You're going to do it.

Speaker 7:

I mean it just burns. I don't think I'll want to just get it.

Speaker 1:

All the reviews that I've heard about adding water is are negative.

Speaker 8:

Yeah, but that's burn over there.

Speaker 1:

Um, do we have anything else to say about this Gosh?

Speaker 3:

the roof of my mouth feels like somebody took like a fine sandpaper to it.

Speaker 6:

I feel like you had either fruit loops or a bonny sandwich.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, captain Crouch, captain Crouch, captain Crouch, dude dagger bread.

Speaker 6:

They're almost always dagger bread.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Maybe, like a four zero steel wool Just politely, just politely, just politely Just removed some. Yeah, it's a little rough, yeah, exploited.

Speaker 7:

It's a little numb.

Speaker 1:

It's a little numb, but it's not roughed up. Yeah.

Speaker 8:

Like, like, just like Captain Crunch does, it's not like.

Speaker 1:

I didn't just eat a bowl of Captain Crunch, I just did like a numbing, it was a numbing cream.

Speaker 4:

This has got the Scotch cares. The Scotch cares About me. Approximately two minutes ago, I smelled it again and I got like what are the little mini You're going back to the beginning the mini lobsters, longa, prada, the langosteens. The langosteens, the crud dads, the stings. No, not crud the langosteens.

Speaker 7:

The little ghosteens.

Speaker 4:

But now, I'm getting that brownish glue that has, like, the rubber tip at an angle and you like angle the bottle. You know what I'm talking about Wood glue.

Speaker 2:

Oh that's something that's super high.

Speaker 4:

It's not wood glue, taipant, maybe, I don't know. It's got the orange like silicone rubber. Yeah, taipant, yeah.

Speaker 7:

And then the little, thing, the little thing Kind of a. Thing.

Speaker 4:

Middle school like back in the day. Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I think they took that off the market Like that's like the most touching.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, when Lawn Darts got taken off.

Speaker 4:

I think it was.

Speaker 6:

March too. I remember it was March. Yeah, those three-wheeler motorcycles got to go too, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Well, this guy's brain back memories Three-wheel motorcycles Maybe.

Speaker 8:

Hmm.

Speaker 7:

Who was our last listener? Alexander Road, okay, so if Alexander Road was a car, driving a vehicle. What vehicle would Alexander Road be driving? Hmm?

Speaker 4:

Hmm, hmm, that's interesting because his last name is Road. Yep, that helps, so we can do a study. We'd definitely be driving a car. Yeah, I think he would be singing now.

Speaker 2:

Not an off-road vehicle.

Speaker 7:

Okay, fair enough. I feel like this has got some off-road capabilities.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, definitely His last name is Road, but there is a dirt road, but you could have road off-road.

Speaker 2:

This is like a highway in the morning driving down to the beach. No.

Speaker 7:

No, that's on your three-wheel track with a backpack full of mondo.

Speaker 2:

Okay, fuck me, this is rugged, this is.

Speaker 6:

I got yours under your radar, got your mow. Are we trying to say that this?

Speaker 7:

is a different kind of enjoyable. It's like when you get to camping or you're on your way to go camping I don't know how many you camp Like. You get there and then you're on the road. You know like putting in the big, like three hour stretch, and then right when you hit the dirt and you crack the beer and you're off-road. You're off-road freshly from the road. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm, somebody else have this experience?

Speaker 7:

Yeah, you've transitioned from like I am commuting to like I am now recreationally driving. Yeah, and that's when you can crack that beer, Mm-hmm, and the road is rough and you're kind of you don't know where you're going exactly. You're kind of following maybe some GPS coordinates or whatever. You're going down this curvy road. The sun is setting, you're kind of rushing to get there, but you're, you just got on vacation after a long drive.

Speaker 4:

And all that kind of car is about Alexander's driving this car.

Speaker 7:

And that has nothing to do with the.

Speaker 4:

Scotch that we're driving.

Speaker 8:

What the car is, what this does everything to do with the Scotch yeah.

Speaker 2:

This Scotch is like right when you go off-road.

Speaker 7:

You lost me right when we went off-road. I guess we should be talking about what vehicle it is.

Speaker 5:

Yes, no, Verna, I'm kind of there with you. Thank you, this is a smart-ass. I mean, this is your car that you love, and I don't have a specific car in mind. It's a car that you love. But, little Genki, you know you're getting to this. You're going to the camping site. You're not quite sure. Is it going to make it, is it not? Is it going to make it home? Not quite sure. But once you get there, it's like fuck it, we'll deal with it later.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think the seats are old cloth seats that smell like vanilla too.

Speaker 3:

Yeah but they're comfortable, they're real comfortable. Couple of tears, they're your seats.

Speaker 7:

Stacey, there's a word for tears.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to go in a different direction now Okay, we're going uphill.

Speaker 1:

It's going to be kind of like my Bond girl type thing, I feel like that's a lot of yeah, I feel like you get. You get in this car and you're like oh, there's a nice little, like pretty Porsche or something like sitting there. And then you get in the car and boom, you're in Transformers four and the car all sudden like gets like these gigantic like wheels and transforms into a thing and then like starts running and you're like.

Speaker 1:

Whoa now like this car is like a robot and like I'm on the beach and now I'm fighting like demons and shit, we're on the beach.

Speaker 4:

So this is the Michael Bay of the Sky, yeah. You see her going in a different direction. Yeah, Transformers four.

Speaker 1:

So that's the vehicle. Okay, the vehicle is a transformer, but you see it and it's like a Porsche and you're like, oh, you have no idea that you're about to step into a robot that's going to like get up and have like a sword and like a shotgun in one hand. It does just like start like fighting bitches.

Speaker 7:

Well, high metal, mineral content, I mean a robot would, would taste like a robot. I think this would have something like a robot.

Speaker 1:

Thank you.

Speaker 8:

I think this is like a old, like 60s era, like military Jeep yeah.

Speaker 7:

Just like something that's got a lot of rust on it Like the front windshield down, exactly Like you can get some dirt in your teeth no windshield. No windshield, yeah Like it's.

Speaker 8:

It's not.

Speaker 7:

Don't believe in them.

Speaker 8:

It's not going to be appealing for everybody, but like it's going to be super appealing for certain people, yeah. Because like this is enjoyable but like I think this is more of an acquired taste, scotch for people that have been drinking scotch than somebody that's new to scotch, kind of thing.

Speaker 7:

I think that's bang on. I think that's fantastic.

Speaker 4:

Now that I understand the call of the question, I'm going to agree with Dave. I was going to say this reminds me of like a 60s kind of sleeper muscle car, where you're getting some of the exhaust in the cab with you. It's loud, it's fast, it's strong.

Speaker 6:

It rattles a bit. It rattles a bit.

Speaker 4:

The seats have Mexican blanket. It's a Bench C with Mexican blankets.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, american you got a sort of board in the back. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

And then Harrison Ford's driving. Okay, yeah, american graffiti. Yeah, so it's the aluminum foil.

Speaker 4:

No, I don't think it has a slick paint job Actually Okay.

Speaker 7:

It's a little one that is coming it does.

Speaker 1:

Did it have?

Speaker 4:

Camaro Yellow Camaro no he drove like a truck.

Speaker 1:

He drove like a black truck in American graffiti but it had like. It was like a speed demon truck, but remember he had like a cowboy hat. Yeah, I think he barely spoke in the movie, I think. I've seen it. He would just pull up to other like cars and just like do the old, the look, the old nod, and then they would race and he'd beat them. This got you that nod. Now we're talking. Yeah, hold on. So the vehicle that came to mind. Oh yeah, that's good. That's the Harrison Ford.

Speaker 6:

The vehicle that came to mind to me would be like a 62 series Land Cruiser, so it would be Lake.

Speaker 2:

East.

Speaker 6:

Vernon and I both had one at the same time, the same one.

Speaker 3:

The same one. No, we had different ones, they just had the vehicle.

Speaker 7:

I was thinking after soccer I had a white one.

Speaker 6:

He had a blue one about the same time and they didn't perform that well, but they're fucking rad. Yeah, Great vehicles but gutless 148 horsepower.

Speaker 7:

It's all you need to get the heaviest vehicle ever. But yeah, don't go up a mountain.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, but it's a quirky, fun rig and reminds me of this Scotch.

Speaker 3:

Well does anybody have like a guess, yeah, of what we're drinking here.

Speaker 1:

Region year. I like BV yeah.

Speaker 5:

I'm going to highlight.

Speaker 7:

I think, that I like 47% burclotic.

Speaker 4:

Wow, I love 46%. I don't know, okay, which distillery.

Speaker 1:

So we're all on the ILA train. It sounds like, yes, abv, little bit of fluctuation, but high 40s. Sounds like it's kind of the club vibe.

Speaker 6:

I'm going to go hard 50.

Speaker 1:

Oh, dave yeah that's hard.

Speaker 4:

Does anybody?

Speaker 8:

have year guesses Year. Yeah, I'm curious because I have no clue.

Speaker 6:

You have a year. I have no clue. That's the one that. I think I never get.

Speaker 2:

I can never get hard. I'd say 12ish.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, I'm going 12. These days it's different.

Speaker 8:

Based on the color. Yeah, I think it's either like a 4 or a 12.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, first fill or refill ex-burban barrel. Not long yeah, so I would say like eight years, Maybe six.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, yeah, like a little six Like a gnarly mash bill, and then first fill Burbans. Yeah, distillery I already said, it's perclotic.

Speaker 1:

A.

Speaker 4:

End of show, that's a wrap.

Speaker 1:

Feel like an indelible, just a contrarian.

Speaker 7:

Yeah.

Speaker 8:

I was about to say it's like a luffa. It could be a year Like fancy barrels.

Speaker 6:

Remember even that it's sort of like art banks are great, I was going to say art banks.

Speaker 3:

I liked the game of the Indians. It's like a weebee.

Speaker 5:

It's like a weebee, but not enough can. That's right? Not enough pit.

Speaker 4:

Now I really want to see the bottle.

Speaker 8:

I'm gonna try yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So do you want to go around and rate this puppy? Let's rate this puppy. All right, okay, I'll go first. I liked it a lot. I liked that man. I liked that it was a Bond girl because I liked James Bond. I liked that it was complex on the nose. We had a lot to talk about. I feel like there's a lot more fruits.

Speaker 1:

It was a lot smoother of a ride when we first started off, which is awesome, and then all of a sudden it changed and was just like just kidding, I'm not jazz, I'm hardcore, I'm metal, metal and I really like that. I like that. It changed a lot. It was almost like not quite two scotches for the price of one. If you add water and it changes something drastic, that's really good. Then you get the. Then you get the two fur, from me at least, but I loved that. I don't know it was. It was a lady on the street but a freak in the bed. No, yeah, yeah. When you smelt it you're like oh, this is so nice, pear, there was all kinds of like more sweeter, gentler kind of things thrown out there. And then you drink it and you're like this is a really awesome rough ride. So I'm going to give it a nine for me. Whoa, I'm starting off the pod. That's cool. I'm already Fern, what do you got?

Speaker 7:

Sorry, I was Instagramming at the moment so I didn't hear anything that you said.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure it was pretty. It was just know that it was fantastic.

Speaker 5:

It was good. Probably, if I gave anything, it was the best thing he's ever said. Probably.

Speaker 7:

I'll have to listen to the podcast. Yeah, two of you. Yeah, this is hard because I don't know when we didn't really talk about when you would drink this. I don't know we didn't talk about seasons. This might be a campfire scotch.

Speaker 6:

I can't imagine. Is it a cold weather scotch or a warm weather scotch? I think it'd be Well I think it'd be.

Speaker 7:

Either You're just going to be camping, it's probably something you could have a cigar with. It's got enough stuff going on. Maybe it's too much going on if you have a cigar, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Can I lay a scene?

Speaker 7:

It's a lot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like it's kind of a warm day. Sun was out, sun goes away. Wind kicks up, windy scotch. The wind kicks up.

Speaker 7:

It's a windy scotch, it's a sailing scotch.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love that Sun goes down, it's cool. Yeah, are we at altitude.

Speaker 6:

Would you associate this with altitude?

Speaker 7:

But nothing crazy, nothing crazy. You're at 4K and you've got 20 knots coming over Coming down your back the cruise yeah.

Speaker 5:

You have this 20 knots coming in your back, coming in from the east.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, I know it's significant, but you need something that is going to shake things up. You need a scotch that's going to redirect your attention from just like the I don't know the simple novelty things of camping and be like hey, this is a little bit bigger and you've got to focus on it a bit more. I mean, I guess it takes your focus. I will say this is an 8.0. I liked it. I want to try it again. What do we do? Do we have like a kind of a number that we say like I would drink it again? Is that eight or is it?

Speaker 1:

nine. That's whatever you want it to be.

Speaker 7:

For me personally.

Speaker 1:

I, one of my. One of the biggest things that I feel like is can I, would I buy this and bring it at home? And for me, this got you, I would bring it at home, which is why I give it a nine. So for me that's kind of like if you, if I, want this at home, you're automatically an eight and above, but that's just me.

Speaker 7:

I think I'll go with eight point eight. I'll stick with that. I think it has my interest. I want to try it again. Jury's out a little bit for me and but I'm definitely by curious.

Speaker 1:

Okay, very good.

Speaker 6:

For me. I'm at an eight two. I really liked it. I don't gravitate towards like sweeter scotches, but this one had so many fun savory and wild notes that I even though it was like on the sweeter end, on the front end I really dug the wild ride. So that brings me to an eight two Nice.

Speaker 1:

Andrew.

Speaker 4:

I think I'm a seven, seven, five. I did like it, I liked a lot, but as time went on with it, I didn't, it didn't bowl me over. Did you like it less as you went on? No, I didn't like it less, but I didn't like it more. And usually I feel like with time, I like a scotch more. If I'm gonna, you know, be up in the eights and the nines Nothing objectionable for me I would definitely put this in in the camping scotches, I think. As you guys were talking about it, I think this might be a desert scotch because it's dry and hot, I feel like this is like I want this in Joshua Tree.

Speaker 4:

Sun goes down, air gets cool, sitting around the fire. This is this is what I want. To me it wasn't all that sweet, unless you count like the smoke, the sweet smoke or things of that sort, but yeah. I enjoyed it. I don't know I might buy it. I really want to know what it is. Yeah, I can't wait. This is a distinct point. I think curiosity might be my overwhelming response to it right now.

Speaker 1:

Nathan.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think I'm gonna build on the desert theme here. Build, baby. I think that Andrew nailed it. It feels like a desert scotch because it is a little dry and a little hot, and I'm gonna build off of Vern's comment too and call this a Santa Anna wind scotch. There we go. It's a little chaotic, there's a little danger, a little uneasiness, a little paranoia, a little paranoia.

Speaker 3:

As a tasting note that's five, even when you were talking about the vehicles pulling off the road. I'm thinking Salton Sea, yeah, the Salton Sea scotch. I'm heading off the main road. I'm heading towards or away from Slab City, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Wow, it doesn't matter, I'm getting lost, it's poetry, it's chaos.

Speaker 3:

I think part of that is that the nose and the taste had so much distinction, like Justin alluded to with his Transformers reference. It was. It was a Transformer On the nose, it was stone fruits, it was summer wheat colors, it was legs for days and the second it hit my palate. It was a burst of gushing fruit and then it immediately turned bitter and those grapefruit notes just came out and just dry. Chaotic desert, santa Anna winds yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1:

Most of the guys at this table are hard right now. Continue, continue. Greatest scotch ever.

Speaker 3:

Well, I think that's my dismount, so I'm going to give this an eight. I'm going to give this an eight.

Speaker 7:

Wow, wow, I know poetry and chaos and only an eight and paranoia.

Speaker 3:

But I'm having a hard time reading this, because this is your paranoid, because I'm a little freaked out because this is an unusual scotch. This isn't a comfort bottle. This isn't the old familiar. This isn't something that I reach for because I've had a hard day and now I want to relax. This is I'm ready to fucking kill someone.

Speaker 7:

Or you just did.

Speaker 3:

So I'm giving it an eight because if I was rating this on the sense of what I buy, this absolutely To me and eight and above is I would I would bring this home. I don't know that I can bring it up from that in the sense that you're too scared to. I'm a little freaked out, yeah. I can just I want to come down.

Speaker 2:

Chase us with a monster. Oh yes, there's a monster involved.

Speaker 8:

We're talking about the energy drink or like stop monster man. It's hard to follow that up.

Speaker 5:

That was really well said. Just say a number and we'll I'm going to say, going to give it an eight point five, and I mean, for lack of a better term, I want to put this one in this bank, bank.

Speaker 5:

I don't want to, you know I don't need to go back there all the time. But you know, I want to keep this one in my back pocket and ready to go when I want it or when I need it. You know, there's a little out there, a little harsh, a little bitter, but now that my cup is empty I'm like God. I could use a little bit more of that, you know you miss it and I don't know.

Speaker 5:

It kind of had all the right notes for me. You know it was if I were to give it a criticism. It was a little bit too bitter, but that's probably what makes it, you know, makes me want a little bit more.

Speaker 2:

But so eight point five Hmm, alex, 9.25 one of the best.

Speaker 8:

That's it.

Speaker 2:

That's all you want to say hey man, I know everything about the spawn.

Speaker 8:

I'm gonna, I'm, I'm. I'm lower than most people. I'm a the 7 5 for me. I Enjoyed. Yeah, I'm the contrary. This is the classic Dave. So I enjoyed this but there were things that I wish it had like. I wish like the sweeter notes that I had at the beginning, like Lasted a little bit longer. I wish it tasted less light, less bitter. It's good and I'm very much looking forward to trying it again and giving it a second shot, but on first, first glance for me, I'm in just 7.5.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, okay, give very, we're gonna be talking about you.

Speaker 7:

That seems fair okay.

Speaker 3:

For how I think that's a great score for this.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, and scary the Scotch oh.

Speaker 4:

Dave and I rated it lowest and I think both of us would, hands down, give it another go.

Speaker 7:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

I mean yeah, it was. It was really fun. It was really intriguing. It's just like I was I was waiting for something else.

Speaker 8:

I feel like it's never kick another tasting no or yeah, I mean to be honest, I think for me it was not what I was expecting Alex to bring to the table, because the last few bottles. Well the last year like pancakes and like breakfast.

Speaker 6:

Independent.

Speaker 2:

Magnifico to expect a zero from the art department?

Speaker 4:

Oh, it's a signature and I knew that I was gonna do this. It's a color.

Speaker 2:

Drop what I dropped on it. I Was taking a big risk and I'm glad I took the risk.

Speaker 2:

It was a gamble Signature and it's the unfilled filtered collection, meaning that when it gets colder it gets smokier, gray or more pale. What the bottle is even worse, dave. It has, like as seen on TV, font on here. I Really took a big risk, but I am so proud of us, all of us, because there is not one thing that we missed. We hit it all first off. So it's in a hogshead cask. So ex bourbon barrels with the new tops, right, it's 56 or 58%, or the bottle says 58.3.

Speaker 2:

Not chill filtered Nose or I pale gold. Yeah, great, I think I said that. Maritime notes, pete smoke, malt, vanilla, honey, dried fruit, waxy lemon peel and some minerality. Mmm, palak, honey, smoke, waxy, vanilla, candy malt, dry orchard fruit, malt, basket of it, touch of fresh, fresh pastries and slight baking spice and minerality. We are so good at this. It's a dish honey, fruit, malt, citrus and smoke. Well balanced, full-bodied, fully to oily, feel, sweet, waxy smoke is what it boils down to. So signature vintage.

Speaker 3:

I have a history on the name.

Speaker 2:

Should I dive into that? Do we all know? Sure, we've been a bonglers.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, kind of badass they we've got some navy blue in here, wow.

Speaker 2:

And took over operations there. 140 140. The chill filtering is widely used to control cloudiness, removing the majority of the fats and oils found naturally in the malt. They didn't do that.

Speaker 4:

That's why most of them are not chill filter and it's 58% or whatever it is.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, that's just like if you put ice in in a chill filtered.

Speaker 4:

If you put ice in it'll stay clear. Non chill filtered. If you put ice in it'll get cloudy and the industry types Originally thought oh, that's bad, that makes our scotch look Cheap. It won't sell if it's cloudy. We want it to be clear. So they started chill filtering it so it wouldn't cloud up.

Speaker 2:

Oh, there's in one category that we didn't hit, so I gotta be honest.

Speaker 5:

I know that it's a 58.6 or 58.3 Like. I would honestly give it a like two points high, like two Cuz, like that was.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, that's Narlene. My mouth told me that it wasn't super high a bv, but my stomach was like no.

Speaker 1:

Alex, that was amazing, at least.

Speaker 8:

So, except for Andrew and Dave, and give it a second chance.

Speaker 1:

No that was a good scotch. That was a good time. Well done, alex.

Speaker 4:

Thanks Alex, thanks Thanks dude. Good work, all the flavors.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, cheers boys alrighty, I drink to the health of another and the other I drink to. Is he in the hopes that he drinks to another and the other he drinks to is me?

Speaker 2:

So stuck on the bananas.

Speaker 1:

I didn't get bananas, the Laffy taffy bananas, the real bananas.

Speaker 5:

Yeah the way they're supposed.